CFI Aeronautical Experience Requirements

[jumper]

Under 61.411 (g) it gives the flight time requirements for a PPC. (1) states 100 hrs of flight time as a pilot. If you have no other flight experience in another aircraft is that then the min for the PPC? If so, does this then override (i) and (ii)? (iii) states 15 hrs of cross country flight time. Then (iv) states 5 hours in a PPC. If you have no other experience then do you have to have 15 hrs of cross country time in a PPC? Does all your time as a "pilot" count or only the time logged as a "Sport Pilot'?

[Boback]

Under 61.411 (g) it gives the flight time requirements for a PPC. (1) states 100 hrs of flight time as a pilot. If you have no other flight experience in another aircraft is that then the min for the PPC? If so, does this then override (i) and (ii)? (iii) states 15 hrs of cross country flight time. Then (iv) states 5 hours in a PPC. If you have no other experience then do you have to have 15 hrs of cross country time in a PPC? Does all your time as a "pilot" count or only the time logged as a "Sport Pilot'?

Yes, and no. It is saying two different things. First 61.411(g)(1) says you need 100 hours as a pilot. Doesn't matter what you fly except as listed to the right in the table.

(g)(1)(ii) says that of that 100 hours flight time, at least 50 hours must be in a PPC. So, have 51 hours in a PPC, 49 in a fixed wing, that is allowable.

(g)(1)(iii) says that you must have 15 hours of cross country time logged in your logbook. (g)(1)(iv) says that of that 15 hours, 5 hours must be in a PPC. You can do the other 10 in any other aircraft you are authorized to fly.

So, if you have no other flight experience in any other type of aircraft, you need 100 hours in a PPC with at least 15 hours cross country, minimum (plus the other requirements listed).

The next item, 61.411(g)(1)(v) which says 15 hours must be in a Light Sport PPC. This also works in 61.411(g)(1)(ii) which says 50 hours in a PPC is required. The rest could be ultralight flight time. Part 61.52(a) allows you to log ultralight time for a Sport Pilot, Sport Pilot CFI or Private PPC rating.

There are other restrictions in 51.62 you may want to read. Also, I am summarizing the regs, read them for the exact wording :)

[phil]

Under 61.411 (g) it gives the flight time requirements for a PPC. (1) states 100 hrs of flight time as a pilot. If you have no other flight experience in another aircraft is that then the min for the PPC? If so, does this then override (i) and (ii)? (iii) states 15 hrs of cross country flight time. Then (iv) states 5 hours in a PPC. If you have no other experience then do you have to have 15 hrs of cross country time in a PPC? Does all your time as a "pilot" count or only the time logged as a "Sport Pilot'?

Tim,
Since all of your time is in a PPC, then YES, you would need the total 100 hours of flight time as a pilot in a PPC. All the time can be in a PPC. The other hours are part of the total of those 100 hours, so 75 of those 100 hours must be as PIC of a powered aircraft.
50 of those 100 hours must be flight time in a PPC. (notice it did not say as PIC)
15 of those 100 hours must be XC flight time.
5 of those 100 hours are XC in a PPC
15 of those 100 must be in an N ummbered PPC. (ELSA or SLSA)


You also need to look at FAR 61.52, "use of aeronautical experience obtained in ultralight vehicles."

If you were a member of 1 of the 3 exemption holders and properly logged your time, that time can count as well. That makes scaling the mountain a bit easier. You would need to have the letter from them showing you to have been a member as well.
Knowing how XC time may have been logged, you may need to do that.
Since the reg specifies how many hours, you should stick with the minimum of a 15NM straight line distance from point to point.
Of course, the actual distance flown will probably be greater.
When I am doing the 15NM dual XC training flight, I always go to the same point, and it varies between 50 & 55 SM total trip according to my GPS.
When doing this, I also suggest that you mark it on your sectional and date it.

One thing you will want to get if obtaining a CFI is your goal, is the FAA Aviation Instructors handbook FAA-H-8083-9. This covers the FOI, (Fundamentals of Instruction) and the ASA CFI test prep book.

[jumper]

Thanks Bob and Phil, That was my interpretation as well, but I just wanted to check. Becoming a CFI is a goal of mine. Maybe when I grow up:)

[Boback]

Thanks Bob and Phil, That was my interpretation as well, but I just wanted to check. Becoming a CFI is a goal of mine. Maybe when I grow up:)

I know if I wait until I grow up, I will never get it done. I am slowly working on it and hope to look more seriously at it next year.

[jumper]

Me too. My goal now is to just fly as much as possible. Not really worried about the hours. The XC thing is going to take some work. Very rural. Plenty places to fly around and over, but finding places to land with permission of coarse may be difficult. There is another airport about 45 miles away. Shame you can't fly there and back and log 6 XC:rolleyes: Do you fly much in the winter?